And it's the way people would hope other people think that, hey, OK, I've done my time. They dont stay the same people that they were when they committed their crime. Behind 'Ear Hustle,' The Podcast Made In Prison. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California Three Strikes Law, the statute under . Hae-soo married his non-celebrity bride on January 14, 2019, according to sources. Everybody we know live the same lifestyle, you know? His mother was a postal worker and his father was an unemployed alcoholic, who Woods described as violent and distant. GROSS: Nigel, let me bring you into the conversation. And so to me, that meant he was a very good observer. Once the details concerning Earlonnes marital status are available we shall update. But the law don't see your rehabilitation. But I always go over to the fantasy game guys, and I'll just sit there for a minute and try to see if I even come close to understanding what's going on on that table. Not one bit, you know? But he was released in November after his sentence was commuted by California Governor Jerry Brown. Content Creator @CoinAcademy; Pres. They said that, hey, when you went to jail when you were 17 - yeah, it was one time, but there was two convictions in that case. And he said the thing that all women fear is that I raped women because I could. "[12] Woods later traveled to thank Brown and interview him for the podcast. I was a clerk. The podcast title, Ear Hustle, is prison slang for eavesdropping or being nosy. When he was nine, Woods lifted up a faulty railroad crossing gate to allow cars to pass. You're sitting across from law enforcement. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). WOODS: That's something that a lot of us behind bars fantasize about - getting out and leading a normal life. But to hear the very next day that he was killed - and my mother is who told me. So how do you keep going? What keeps your hopes up? A person can get certain - a certain amount of time for the crime that they commit. I think I was probably like eight years old when it came to me that one day I have to die. They're waiting to get inside a club, and somebody from way across the street just shoot into the crowd, hit him in the heart, right? He had served 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. Once you commit your crime, people think thats what it is, but individuals change. But apparently it's fine - like, if you fall in love, the prisoner and the volunteer fall in love, that's fine as long as the volunteer or the staff person is no longer going to be working there in any capacity. E WOODS: So I think that goes into, like, what they call politics in prison and where, you know, you may have certain prisons that it matters what you're in prison for like - and it's a difference on a race level. [5] Woods role on the podcast was well-received, with Sarah Larson from The New Yorker describing him as an "immediately warm and likable presence",[10] while Eddie Harana from Rolling Stone praised the sense of humor he brought to the show. This lady - her name was Claire. - like, was with him pretty much every day. POOR: We can taste each other's food 'cause, you know, in prison you can't share food with people. We get - I mean, it's - you know, it's - we're just E WOODS: You're able to go out now. Its out of body, he said of getting the call from Browns office. How do you deal with family, love, depression, having children, finding meaning in life? Along with Nigel Poor, he is a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX. You know, he running the streets. The show was still challenging to create, in part because none of the three producers had a background in audio production, but also because of prison administration red tape. POOR: There's something I have to talk to you about. He received a sentence of 31-years-to-life. GROSS: If you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle. And it was one of them, I guess could you say, moments where you just feel embarrassed about your previous conduct. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. Our associate producer for digital media is Molly Seavy-Nesper. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . E WOODS: Right. GROSS: And Nigel, just as a person who's constantly interacting with inmates at San Quentin, do you want to know what they're incarcerated for, what crime they were convicted of? Do you usually know what somebody is in for and do you ask, or is that considered wrong to ask? She co-created the podcast with Woods and has co-hosted and co-produced it with him. [7] Co-creators Woods and Antwan Williams were inmates at San Quentin State Prison for the first three seasons of the show. I'm on a podcast. Eventually, the marriage fell apart. And, you know, we was clowning on the phone. I've spent a total of 27 years in prison. Therefore, it is not known if Earlonne is single, dating, or married. Mentally, it do, you know? You know what I'm saying? The sound was recorded because he's the co-host and co-producer of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with San Quentin inmates talking about daily life there, things like living with a cellmate in a tiny cell, what it's like to be in solitary confinement, the heartbreak of being a parent separated from your child, how everything inside is separated by race and so on. So here's Nigel Poor, co-host and co-producer of the podcast Ear Hustle. T WOODS: You know, he was ripping and running with the gangs. And many people around me wasn't like that. The San Francisco Public Library chose the title for its One City One Book citywide community reading program in 2022. GROSS: Earlonne, what's the custom among men in San Quentin? Despite the lack of physical or forensic evidence, Caramad Conley was convicted of conspiracy to commit first degree murder, two counts of first degree murder, and eleven counts of attempted He commuted my sentence to be released forthwith, immediately, right now, its time to go, time to walk out that gate, he added, laughing. GROSS: Yeah. Therefore, it is not known if Earlonne is single, dating, or married. And on their way back to the auntie's house, they were pulled over by Long Beach Police Department - two officers. So for me internally, I started my change. Like, I take you as the man you are in front of me. Los Angeles, CA. And so that's the point that I'm struck by - that human beings in a moment can do something with devastating consequences. This is what we work for because there comes a moment in every person in prison's life where the light switch go on. And, Earlonne, again, I want to thank - I want to congratulate you again for your new freedom. Vice President . Why didn't you invite me (laughter)? Author, Project Leader of CHOOSE1 Opinions are my own linktr.ee/Earlonnewoods Posts Reels Videos Tagged Show More Posts from earlonnewoods While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College and completed many vocational trade programs. And I want to play what he said to you. "[9] The show's unique lens and intimate first-person storytelling is noted in most reviews. Williams was serving a 15-year sentence for armed robbery with a gun enhancement. And I thought, well, those are kind of qualities that you need to be able to bring people out. I've never had a problem. , after serving 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. And it really wasn't until I got into the healing circle that I understood what it was like to be a survivor of crime because in these circles, you're sitting across from crime victims. I don't know what tomorrow brings, but I know what's happening today and right now. [6] While in San Quentin, Woods was unpaid for his work on Ear Hustle, though fans would often send him money. He was hired to continue co-hosting and producing the podcast after his release. But you look back, and you're looking at it like, I've wasted, like - I can say right now, I'm 47 years old. So you're interviewing a prisoner who - he and one of the volunteers fell in love, and so she stopped working there in any capacity, and they got married. So it be at prison, I'm going to enjoy my day every day because at the end of the day, this is all I got, you know? Earlonne was not only one of the co-hosts, he was one of the men incarcerated until his release in late November after California Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence. So you become accustomed to that lifestyle. [9], On November 21, 2018, producer Earlonne Woods's sentence was commuted by California governor Jerry Brown. E WOODS: He got a hell of a collection of vinyl. All rights reserved. And so to hear this is what happened to him - ah. He is 49 years old. They say hello. Earlonnes sentence was recently commuted, but the two proceed to tell stories of life behind bars. So I gave him, you know, a handshake with as much emotion as I could muster POOR: Appropriately. WOODS: It's unrealistic, but I think about just getting out of San Quentin, jumping in the water and swimming to my yacht and going around the world. You know, prison, I'm going to live to the best of my ability. And I'm not even talking about physically intimate, but just emotionally intimate is against regulations. I was hoping I could talk to you a little bit about it. You know, at that particular moment, in that mindset - like today, am I OK with that? Nigel Poor is a professor of photography at California State University in Sacramento. So I was nervous at first to go in because, I mean, my head was full of all the images that, you know, of - from bad TV, bad movies, bad media about what prison was going to be like. And Jerry Brown was then the governor of California. WOODSON: They told me that my son was murdered - well, killed. He had just became a paramedic or something. And, Nigel and Earlonne, I want to wish you good luck with the retooled version of Ear Hustle now that Earlonne is out. "[6], Multiple reviewers noted how funny the show can be, despite often dealing with serious topics, and how uncommon it is to find humor in media taking place in real life prison settings. You're able to go POOR: We're able to go out. You know what I mean? I just stopped over there, went and sat on a rock and just watched the water for about an hour. But I'd say a lot of people, particularly in law enforcement, want to look at the crime only, and that's really the big debate. They're the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin about their daily lives and their personal stories. E WOODS: I think - I was just tripping off - he was just peeling back one of the Beatles POOR: Oh, yeah. Im thinking about my mama, shes 70. You have to wear the same clothes all the time. When Earlonne was in, I was probably in there 40-plus hours a week, and I'm not a masochist. Yes, he can come to my house. [7] Woods relocated to Oakland, California after his release, and was hired full-time as a producer and co-host of Ear Hustle. So in that case, I didn't dig in. But I just - just took a course that was - seemed cool to me at the time. Did you give him a hug? So Earlonne, let me ask you about ways you think you've changed since you were a teenager and were first put in prison. But after you recorded that interview, you found out something about him and decided, like, you could not play that interview unless you asked him another question. In 2020, Ear Hustle was named a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize in audio reporting the first time the . Woods said he was only trying to be helpful, but was arrested by local sheriffs who did not question why he had lifted the gate; Woods subsequently had to appear in juvenile court. GROSS: Nigel, when you first started volunteering in San Quentin, what were some of the things you had to deal with as a woman teaching in a prison of men? It's a job. His commutation includes reference to Earlonne's work on the podcast. But then someone will research you and be like, did they just feed me a bunch of bull [expletive]. E WOODS: I, personally, would like to eradicate California's three strikes law because I think that there's a lot of people that's sentenced under this law, which everybody thinks is 25 to life. He says, I need to speak with you. EARLONNE WOODS: Well, I just keep getting up every morning, you know, thankful that I have another day, thankful that I'm alive, you know? Earlonne Woods educational background is unavailable. POOR: While you're thinking, can I tell you some of the things that are just going through my mind about it? Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle when Woods was a prisoner in San Quentin. And the captain comes in. They surrounded Tyler around a - at a apartment building, where he was trying to climb up to the roof. California Gov. Kourtney Kellar models for a variety of periodicals, companies, Toni Storm is a famous New Zealand-Australian wrestler, social media influencer, Instagram personality, OnlyFans star, and entrepreneur from Auckland, New Zealand. POOR: You know, a kind of joy I never really experienced before - I mean, it's - you know, to be so happy for him and being in prison and not wanting to cry (laughter) - you know, trying to hold it together. There's a story you did about how people like you from the outside who come in to volunteer - because you started at San Quentin volunteering teaching photography before you started doing the podcast Ear Hustle. It was a private wedding ceremony, according to accounts. But it was just - it was spectacular. I think it's about probably 20 people from there that call me collect. When I called my mother, she told me this, right? I realized that he had a really intense work ethic that matched my own and that we just really got along. I go over to Nigel's house, hang out with her husband Rick. I find it invigorating. What are some of the ways you think you've changed over the years? This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Also with us is Nigel Poor. So now we just have the opportunity to travel together, to do something like this together. And so being in prison has just really altered that. I told him that constantly. We called up Nigel Poor today to ask her about it, and she said that when they got the news yesterday, they were in the middle of making an episode. --. Like, you may have guys that are Hispanics or whites who, when they get to a certain prison, their race is like, let me see your paperwork. You know, he calls me. In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. On his release from San Quentin State Prison, Woods was hired full time to continue the work started inside but also adding reentry stories. POOR: I know. [8][9][16] Vulture's Nicholas Quah noted a particular story a prisoner told about a frog in episode three: "a moment of levity in a setting often described in the worst of terms, a productive kind of conversation between the specificities of a person and the overpowering context of his incarceration. They searched Tyler, and then they ran his name. Earlonne Woods was born and raised in South Central Los Angeles. Woods' sentence was recently commuted, but the two continue to tell stories of life. So I still had a 17-year-old mentality. He became affiliated with a local Crips gang in high school, and began selling marijuana at 14, and later sold cocaine. [3], Woods completed his General Educational Development in prison, as well as vocational courses such as auto mechanics. Jerry Brown. And I was paroled when I was 23, about to turn 24. POOR: It's the bay - yeah, the bay, yeah. It didn't work out, unfortunately. "Ear Hustle" the phrase is slang for eavesdropping is a collaboration between Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both prisoners at San Quentin, and Nigel Poor, a Bay Area visual artist who teaches photography classes at the prison. ERIN: I don't - I don't know. I'm not doing this. We'll be right back. Let me see why you're here. GROSS: Earlonne, how did you learn how to keep your calm and live in the kind of confined situation you were in during the more than two decades that you were incarcerated? And then the question is, well, what do we do about that? He likes to keep his personal life private hence Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his marital status. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. And I keep thinking, like, a week from now, Earlonne and I could be having dinner outside the prison together (laughter). ERIN: No, I don't feel you're being unfair at all, and I don't ultimately know what my hesitancy is. POOR: That's his obsession. GROSS: And that was because - you got such a long sentence because one crime had you convicted on two counts, so that counted as two strikes. And I spend a lot of time in there. [12] On October 19, 2021, co-hosts Poor and Woods released a book on the podcast, This Is Ear Hustle. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. WOODSON: I used to work for the captain at CIW in the program office. And it's fine. E WOODS: And she even got mad at me the other day E WOODS: 'Cause I left dinner with everyone, and I went to the movies by myself to go see "Vice" (laughter). But that was a case that challenged my desire to not know and to - how to deal with the knowing once it's been presented to you. Woods said that the show chose the topic of cellmates for its first episode to ensure the show was relatable, since most people can relate to having a bad roommate. And to hear how it happened to him and to hear that he was shot 19 times, you know - and I just try to visualize, like, what he was going through at the time he was being shot at by those officers. He and Nigel Poor began the podcast Ear Hustle when Earlonne was a prisoner in San Quentin. I don't think I have the vision to see it. NIGEL POOR: You know, E, you've been in prison 20 years. Jerry Brown commuted his 31-years-to-life . Toni Storm is well-known in the wres. Williams, 29, has served more than 10 years on a 15-year sentence for armed robbery. E WOODS: In between prison - when I got out - Tyler had just been born in '94. And it's just about - you know, they accept anybody, you know? Earlonne Woods (@earlonnewoods) Instagram photos and videos earlonnewoods Follow 225 posts 24.1K followers 931 following Earlonne Woods Public figure Award winning Co-Creator + Co-Host, @earhustlesq . [9][7] Ear Hustle was the first podcast entirely recorded and produced inside a prison. Just to be out there with her.. HuffPost visited Woods at San Quentin earlier this year to discuss why he created the podcast. In 2018, California governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence, citing Ear Hustle as a significant contributor to his reformation as an American citizen. Jerry Brown is releasing Woods from San Quentin State Prison after two decades behind bars. Earlonne Woods, co-host of the popular prison podcast Ear Hustle, had his sentence commuted by California Gov. You have to go through a lot of E WOODS: Yeah, it's a lot of stuff you have to go through. And it was one of the restore justice symposiums. GROSS: Well, why don't we take a short break here, and then we'll talk some more? Even though you can't do nothing about your past, you just feel embarrassed about even going down that route, even victimizing anybody. Earlonnes sentence was recently commuted, but the two continue to share their experiences behind bars. Yes, he was quiet, but he was always present. Jerry Brown (D) has commuted the prison sentence of Earlonne Woods, whose hit podcast Ear Hustle explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. And we just had such great conversations. I was just done. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College and completed many vocational trade programs. Earlonnes average salary is $61,244 per year. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). At the time, your brother and your nephew's mother, Tyra, were living what you describe as a life of crime together. (SOUNDBITE OF STEFANO BOLLANI AND JESPER BODILSEN AND MORTEN LUND AND MARK TURNER AND BILL FRISELL'S "ALOBAR E KUDRA"). He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator with Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. Earlonne Woods prefers to keep his personal life private, so he has not disclosed any information about his marital status. Can people change? POOR: So we were in the media lab working and - you know, trying to work, trying to stay concentrated. What was your reaction when you found out? [13], The term "ear hustle" is prison slang for eavesdropping. So I think that's very damaging. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. And to hear - to take that in and to not be afraid and to not judge a person but to, like, sit with it and think about it and think about this was 30 years ago, like I just - I had to do a lot of work around that. And so I want to play an excerpt of that. E WOODS: So I'll give you example. He running with these hard heads. Woods was involved in an attempted robbery in 1997, when he was in his 20s. Earlonne holds an American nationality and white ethnicity. And then, I always say that, you know, a lot of people that volunteer - people like Nigel Poor, people like other volunteers that volunteer inside of prisons - are on the frontline of public safety because these are the people that's coming in and is trying to show you a different way of life or trying to help you understand differently, think differently. I'd still be sitting in San Quentin in a cell with my brother. Even after Woods is out on parole in Oakland, California, Ear Hustle said that it will continue, with Poor telling more tales from those inside San Quentin and Woods talking about the journey to re-enter society after years behind bars. I'm always interested in people who - I'm quiet myself. One is that you're going to get killed, and the other is that you'll eventually go to jail. [5] The show features interviews with inmates who share their stories and opinions on topics like cellmates, solitary confinement, race, morality, pets, religion, gangs, and family. No, and I laugh because had Governor Brown probably not been the governor, I would still have 10 years of my sentence left. But we knew that, you know, it's traditional for the governor to do these commutations right before Thanksgiving. I don't (laughter) take them for granted. Once the details concerning Earlonne's marital status are available we shall update. Others are typical and comfortable, never rising to celebrity status but supplying its partners with a contented existence. This is FRESH AIR. E WOODS: But I wouldn't have it no other way. So now we can actually do that and even POOR: Hopefully go to other countries, too. But if we could just talk about it and come to some understanding about what's our responsibility, what's your responsibility? It was like a light switch. 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