Like you I tried to be nice and supportive to win my H back. Im going to call my brother today and lay that down the line! Thanks TFW! He dug himself into this pit. However, now Im back at home and just finished unpacking. Its what cheaters do. I was nervous to reach out on here but Im losing my mind and it is 4am. I even asked him that exact question. I advocate to getting bad ass empowered by any means necessary. Many come to their senses before a D. Some, sadly, do not. I know what that desperation is to get those emails. H wont get help and thinks he has done everything in the M so is justified for his dummy spit. Aging women are villified. All that combined with the fact that he truly loved me and our life certainly added to his drive to at least try R. I had no choice but to put my big girl pants in and become a force with whom not to be reckoned! After discovery the house of cards cave in and they are generally left with nothing. And another. It took me about 5 weeks to suss out his real intentions tho. Stay strong and know you arent battling this alone. Worried about my financial future. But if they are going to be idiots then it leaves the BS no choice. I truly think your h is scared and easily influenced by others. Well, she is about to find out that all those assets she is coveting from afar? What got me and still hurts is how smug and flippant my wife was with me. Beautiful bride wearing a white wedding dress running away alone. 7.If I brought up issues during dinner..he would push his plate aside, thats right I ruined his meal. but he was once again distant. I questioned every aspect of myself because I was not enough as a person. Someone you dont know. Or loosing a child must be absolutely excruciating. He is counting on knowing your next move and the more contact and dialogue you have, the more he knows what you are thinking. Thank goodness for the internet. It all just hit me so hard and I couldnt even get words out on the nightly check up phone calls from my family. Oh yeah my hair fell out and the obligatory weight loss, anxiety, rapid heart beat, completely falling apart at the grocery store, the whole scene!!! Trust me you so got this, I love your way with condensing my shit show into plain common sense TryingHard!!! He was white. He was still clearly in denial about a lot of things, but that was him lying to himself, not me. Pretty sure he is immune to that only he is impacted (in his mind). My story above about the inspiration or influence as you call it has stayed with me, as I have long felt my H tends to be whoever he is in front of at the time. He is a child in a mans body. My story is all through this thread. We have all been there. After all I had been married 10 years to her. I believe you guys are the best of people because of it. Not a sad sausage to her, just to me!! The emotional devastation is unbelievable. Now you know. Once he went in I pulled in and went in the building. Im glad if I can help someone in that way. Runaway Husband by Vikki Stark was the most helpful book that I have read during my situation. Ambivalence hmmm. It is easier for them to turn the other way rather than confronting a friend or loved one for their behavior. Have him sign docs stating he will accept lesser amount and paid in full. I needed to tell it. Without that, I simply wouldnt be here at all. My father bless him even called my H personally and got one of his own contacts, one of the best psychologists in the country, arranged to see him but H refused to make the appointment. I will take your advice though and do more research on one whose focus is infidelity. Overall good, possibly life saving. WOW! Its his betrayal. Turns out that is when the EA began in ernest. One person is replaceable with anotherone wife with another, one child or two children with others. The last thing is that YOU have to stop trying to get her to communicate and be an adult. Trying Hard, Im going to take your advice and plan a few days at a retreat in a weeks time. As a typical cheater he blames you for it. Hes going to be all over the place. Ugh what an odious task. It is mine. Dont give him a chance to stomp off. I would literally wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing as though I were running. I never thought he would trash it all, M, Life, Me, Us, Future etc. She didnt want to hurt me. Im happy to hear your family is supportive.no one should have to go through this alone. He did however ask me out for dinner tomorrow night instead. I hope in some little way my story helped you. I dont feel like OW is in the picture and as a strict rule I never mention OW anyway. Even offensive OW who come here occasionally to spout their agenda. Rather than take responsibility for his actions, He embraces his new identity wholeheartedly. My other children were very supportive of me but the oldest is the only person that was ANGRY FOR ME. I read this article by Erica Manfred on HuffPo that describes cheating / leaving as an act of fear, aggression and symbolic violence, as well as narcissistic rage: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erica-manfred/hes-the-one-who-cheated-a_b_805510.html. I chose compassion when I was treated with contempt. During those weeks I reached out and reached out. I totally relate to your story. I am still confused.and will probably never understand what went so very wrong. My father contracted covid and was in the ICU on a ventilator fighting for his life. Divorce is the finality of the marriage. I wouldnt try to keep it short. Hi TheFirstWife & TryingHard, I dont get why he wouldnt at least try to see if we could work things out. She claimed $250,000 as her share of the house, and another $250,000 in punitive damages. FIL had a meeting with my own father today, as my Dad was getting so worried and also thought he could press the FIL (they know each other well) to see if some sort of R can happen. His family (I believe) is contributing to this. I had no idea if his next paycheck was going to be put into another account or if he was going to come any given night. Thus, she weathered the insults, the cruelty, and the constant stream of you are a good for nothing from her own mother. Well.he immediately went into R mode and did everything possible to change him, our M etc. Satori thinks shes unique in this craziness and we know shes not. (Not to mention my hair which is long and thick has started to fall out in one spot). I dont want them settling for some guy who wont love with everything they have. You cant control everything but you can control you. Kinda like the bank robber accusing the witness of being a tattle tale! So who I was 15 years ago when I met my H is nowhere the same in terms of my maturity and understanding of people. You know. Do you really need to be saddled with this sad sausage shit show? So much so that on the actual days he had started sleeping with this person, even though I was in another country I felt something for a couple of days, was very teary and emotional for absolutely no reason. I wish I knew about this site during the crazy time of the A. Take your time getting through your emotions and feelings. While we often hear about men doing such a thing, women are equally capable and culpable of such indiscretions. I didnt care. Well, laughter and tears, in order to "not live", we will leave on his conscience, although in cases when lovers run away on the porch of the registry office, someone has to cry. yes I do. Im glad that youre getting some sleep. That is what a runaway spouse looks like. Sitting in my lounge chair on a sunny day helped too. Then I texted him, to ask him why he was calling me. Do not spend your days going round and round in your head asking yourself what you did to cause your spouse to leave. I dont believe I have ever requested to Doug and Linda how to run their blog. I may never get that closure from her. Still. Theres no going back to the way things were. What a fool. I hope you are well Puzzled, (And ShiftingImps, TryingHard, TheFirstWife, SarahP too). Her double life is working for her. So you need to make sure you get custody and child support ftom him. But an A sure seems like a solution. No other way to put things. Maybe even about the business if you can. NC all the way with strict business protocols adhered to. Trying Hard is spot on. Thankfully, I could express my concerns and doubts to my family, says the brand manager. Help me. Walking away from business Thats when I left for Colarado. Such a person will run away from himself and his problems all his life. In a way I am glad that he is checking every box as you listed. Through tears, H said he needed ten minutes. Now that he finally gets it he had a very different attitude about our R and M. All I can say is if he continues to blame the BS for HIS CHOICE TO HAVE AN A then he is not ready to R and go to MC. Youd like her. She is not worth fighting for! I dont quite frankly care if this thimble mind is a threat to themselves. If and when you go to MC thats when you deal with the other stuff. Ie gaslighting/projection STILL). But, hopefully mother and daughter were wise enough to know he was the problem. The long and the short of it is that every time I have confronted him or turned the tables, I have bit by bit gotten him to act a little more like his old self with me, and if anyone has an MLCer, you know how hard that is to get them to do. Cheaters are entitled, character disordered people. It was a long and arduous process for him to understand what he had really done to me. He repaid my trust by abusing it in fucking someone while on that trip. If he thinks he can manipulate you and your M he will. I know this is a shocker but people lie to make themselves look better. Love that line about him being a timid forest creature. Why does everyone else seem to recover so easily? Ill leave you with that thought. The thing that makes me believe it was, at least partially, a MLC is this: she kept saying things like when is going to be my turn to do what I want and its time for my happiness and other things to that affect. The Runaway Bride was the 2006 Christmas Special of Doctor Who. He was caught between a rock and a hard spot. [7], On March 15, 2008, Wilbanks's ex-fianc, John Mason, married another woman, Shelley Martin, in a quiet ceremony at his parents' home in Duluth, Georgia. Isnt it amazing how everything about d-day is etched in ones mind forever.sort of like its frozen in time. My first question is regarding her waning affection. Technology makes an EA easier to build and to maintain.The bond of Us v Wife is easy to do when you can continually seem connected to each other regardless of location or time zones and a lot of these convos take place late at night or early in the morning when people are either tired (easy to manipulate) or fresh (no distractions so laser focus). They have issues and they are self-medicating with an affair. He said it frustrated him how intense I was. I believe her parents who know but my W does not know they know are going to confront her in a couple weeks. I look at peoples actions more than their words anyhow. What a benign sounding word that conveys utter darkness to me now. And my H had it easy. Anyone know why one eye cries more tears than the other? Theres a Robert Frost poem called The Road Not Taken that I have always loved. It most likely would have destroyed the business as I wasnt about to be fed payments over years. Hope your good memories of your friend bring some relief to the sting of your loss. Take half. Great. I only had a few more places to strip and I was finished. They dont want anyone popping their dream bubble. I wish you could sit my H down and explain it to him from a guys perspective. Ihlotshaniswa nomlingiswa okhathazekile nosolisayo, lapho yena (yena), ngenxa yezizathu zomuntu siqu nezenhlalo, esaba ukushada. Also just dont want to run into the many people I know in our area so I do not have to talk to anyone about the situation. Runaway Bride: Directed by Garry Marshall. You might be right. My daughter said later that I should have called her at work to come get the little girls but I didnt think to even do that. Right there with you TryingHard. Saw him again today for 2 hours (much calmer lol!!) Thats interesting. Ive certainly wondered about it. And mid life is not just 50s or 60s it can happen in 30s or 40s too. But what I saw was HONESTY from him, and I had not been getting it. No one can make this choice for him. As to would it happen again? Even though I know I didnt deserve to be treated that way the pain in those journal entries hit me hard. I wasnt any of those things. I dont know WTF I just received, but it certainly was NOT what I asked for. Actually even before she started working for my husband. I guess it was to be expected. Thats good. I just am unsure whether this thing has any chance. *smh*. You smell terrible. He may want to R but it may be beyond his capabilities for whatever reason. We have a great supportive group here! I will swear for you!!! He did this not you. On the flip side though, in the aftermath of the A, I referred to this as sleeping with the enemy. It has even become worse H has started saying he felt trapped. Almost everytime I have shared a bit about my own grief,afterwards someone will come and share their grief with me. Huge hugs to you all and see you on the other side. All the things you suggest are very true and helpful, but I guess some have to be in the time frame for the individual. You know, we all think when we say yes to the proposal and then we say I do in the vows that this is a final thing. No accountability. Couples date night went ok. Then if you D there is no guilt in that area. Distant, no kiss at the end but he came by the house after and took a few more clothes. Mid-Life Crisis? I was thinking the exact same thing you said too: why is my H so miserable, unhappy and under pressure etc? I was so unhappy crap that has been keeping me awake. The things they do! TH Shes really nice. At the worst end of it, self harm. We have a big group of women here like you, Shifting, TFW, Hopeful, and a few others who pop in an out. When Lois realizes she lost her engagement ring and drags Oliver back to the Fortune Casino, the two run into the owner Amos Fortune, who accuses them of stealing money from him. Well I just lost it. I still laugh at this one. I have an attorney and my therapist on speed dial shoukd I have even a suspicion or hint if anything I dont like. I just dont know what the point is of fighting to be with someone who is so fixed in their decision not to save us. Satori Carefully considering both your responses TH. Ok you are doing great!! No, affairs can and do happen at any age. Of course she claims it was all just for show. He was as blindsided by his feelings and A as I was. I am sick to my stomach at the prospect. Whenever the convo came around to divorce and he would reassure me he would take care of me I would literally say oh my darling you dont need to worry about me being taken care of. A musical play based on the story of Jennifer Wilbanks opened on March 13, 2008, at the Red Clay Theater in Duluth, Georgia. Theres nothing wrong with a little help from meds but you have to make sure they are the right ones. Losing parents is a primal and life altering experience as you have so eloquently if painfully described. You are between a rock and a hard place. But from a sky-high view he is digging his own hole. All alone and in shock I got up and made the brilliant decision to drive sround the local hotels looking for him. Lean on those few that you love and trust. I have no idea how it is you can come to a sight like this where peoples lives are torn apart and hurting and the best you can offer up to the people who are suffering is that swear words offend you. I wasnt working there at the time and I stupidly didnt have a key. You will want to, but dont. Ive always had my inner bad ass. I didnt find a text or stumble across an email. Many critics of the mass media attacked the coverage as a "media circus". I highly doubt she is condoning his cheating but thats just my opinion. And, Satori, theyll drag up crap that was insignificant from years ago and try to use it as another rationalization that they arent happy or you did something to hurt them. Other peoples sensibilities rather than my ACTUAL PAIN. It was all MY fault. You dont think hes going to blame himself do you??? Especially if you have no idea if he will continue to support you in the next months. I think that is what H is now waking up to. I had one while I was getting my hair cut this morning. I only got red flags when I was around her at the office. We all need to be here to support one another even if someone communicates in a way that we dont. I hope whatever struggles you are experiencing you are supported by your loving family members. From my take in her posts she trying to be on some path of personal, self enlightenment etc so good for her. I am calling this post The Runaway Spouse Syndrome because this is not necessarily a gender-specific phenomenon. Its just sometimes too late to turn back. Yeah, I get it. But I believe that he probably needs to understand, how long you will wait for that to happen. In all honesty.should he choose to reconcile, thats when the hard work really begins. It sounds as though YOU have been trying. Puzzled and TH Im guessing things arent as rosy for him as he hoed when he moved out. And at this point you probably just want to be done with him altogether given the havoc he has put on your life. Every calming mantra I had in my arsenal went out the window! Im freaking out. And I guess if he lives to112 yeah having an affair at 56 could be considered mid life. I am paranoid and feel unsafe with everyone. Getty Images / Stringer Jennifer Wilbanks went missing three days before her wedding in 2005. And he did. I would tell myself that I didnt have to have all the answers.that it was okay to not know. Will it be easy? In our case a bar might have made it all worse!! I cant say it enough.take care of you. Dont know how he could say this with a straight place. To me this seems completely absurd, and I still today (this was many, many years ago) have great difficulties understanding how people can be so unemphatic. But I kept trudging thru. When it happened I didnt know what I didnt know. Even including the on the couch, beer and phone, no engagement. I mean I went driving around in my pajamas, with a mallet in my car while on that stuff. Satori deserved to be lied to abandoned, rejected, emotionally abused and deceived (and ta second round of abuse financially) since she is simply too smart, and therefore too difficult and we all know she is far too intelligent for GoldenCHild to keep up with honestly. Now Im really thinking about everything, I realise it has always been about his relationships with his family as a priority and that is not healthy when youre in your early 40s and married! Jennifer Wilbanks, the infamous runaway bride who sparked a police hunt and media attention in 2005 when she lied about being abducted in order to escape her wedding day, explained her behavior by saying: "I was running away. He is a child. There are parts of the brain that control things like emotions and memory. You can control how you act, feel, talk, communicate in your relationship. First welcome to the group to which no one ever wanted to belong. Try to relax a bit and focus on your h and your love for him. But youll get there. Its only in your head you feel left out or looked down on. And the longer I have been deep in this shit, the more I see how big a role childhood plays in it all. This apple didnt even have to fall. Your H seems to have cracked quite early (3 weeks) dafter DDay. Heck even share the same lawyer!!! Satori We both had the blessed iPhone. Okay shes left. Get your own bank account and put nothing in your joint account. At first, Clarisse in The Castle of Cagliostro is a Runaway Fianc when she runs away from her Arranged Marriage (presumably during dress rehearsal). Or not. I decided to circumvent MIL and asked H to have dinner with me instead. Cheating is never acceptable but cheating in and of itself doesnt have to be a deal breaker. Right now since you are in a business relationship with your h that takes precedence above all else. I did not yell or curse or throw things. Our lives have been turned upside down by a spouse who became more concerned with me than we. Anyway. Satori I will be without wifi for a while so dont think Im ignoring you. She would just politely detach. when you say you stopped playing nice how long did it take for him to ping back to you? Not sure what the final outcome would have been but at least I wouldnt have feelings of being a doormat over his A. But is that sustainable?? That was until my great, great grandmother was an old and penniless woman. I saw a girlfriend of mine at the local dog park today. You are very lucky that it turned around for you. My wife still wonders why I cant just seem to let it go and put it in the past. We are in this together.it just makes the burden of it all somewhat lighter. She was a complete stranger, a totally different person who became selfish and cruel. Since we dont know how long he was planning this it could be one month or one day or one minute its hard to know his mindset. Your groom is probably. Satori I cant tell you the number of times I heard the words but were just friends. etc). First kine should read sorry not dirty. The past and their BS are simple casualties of their selfish egos. For whatever reason, I needed to hear that song at that very moment. ShiftingImpressions said I was in the fight of my life. One woman even admitted that at her wedding ceremony, she felt a strong desire to run away and have sex with her former boyfriend. Its ok to cry too. I have been grateful and thankful to Doug and Linda for their support and caring and putting their personal life out there. I cant remember what it was but I can look for it. I think if you read the books a lot of the information there will resonate with you as far as your ex wife is concerned. If we take this idea further, I wonder how many runaway spouses always had qualities that could be considered covertly narcissistic and therefore less noticeable. The point is keep going forward. Really if this stuff werent so life disturbingly disruptive it is a freaking farce to be laughed at. Hmmmm how to best put this. I sure hope Satori hasnt been run off from EAJ because of one commenters petty complaint. 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